Fix: AS3 DataGroup Creation Fails With 200 OK Response

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When working with F5 Networks and the Application Services Extension (AS3), encountering a situation where a DataGroup isn't created despite receiving a 200 OK response can be perplexing. This article dives into the potential causes and solutions for this issue, providing a comprehensive guide for troubleshooting and resolving it.

Understanding the Issue

The core problem arises when you submit an AS3 declaration that includes a DataGroup, and while the system acknowledges the request with a 200 OK response, the DataGroup doesn't materialize in the BIG-IP configuration. This discrepancy can lead to unexpected behavior, as other configurations like virtual servers and pools might be created successfully, leaving the DataGroup as the missing piece.

Key Symptoms

  • AS3 declaration submitted successfully with a 200 OK response.
  • Virtual servers and pools are created as expected.
  • DataGroup is not created in the BIG-IP configuration.
  • No specific error messages in the AS3 response indicating the failure.

Environment Details

To provide context, let's outline the typical environment where this issue might occur:

  • Application Services Version: 3.55
  • BIG-IP Version: 21.0.0

These versions are provided as an example, and the issue may occur in other versions as well. Knowing your environment details can help narrow down potential compatibility issues.

Reproducing the Issue

To effectively troubleshoot, it's essential to reproduce the issue consistently. Here are the steps to reproduce the behavior:

  1. Submit an AS3 declaration that includes a DataGroup. The following is an example declaration:
{
 "class": "AS3",
 "targetHost": "xxx",
 "targetUsername": "admin",
 "targetPassphrase": "xxx",
 "declaration": {
 "class": "ADC",
 "controls": {
 "archiveTimestamp": "2025-11-18T15:50:08.145Z",
 "class": "Controls",
 "userAgent": "CIS/v2.20.1 OCP/v4.19.7"
 },
 "f5-cis": {
 "Shared": {
 "class": "Application",
 "https_ose_vserver": {
 "class": "Service_HTTP",
 "layer4": "tcp",
 "snat": "auto",
 "source": "0.0.0.0/0",
 "translateServerAddress": true,
 "translateServerPort": true,
 "virtualAddresses": [
 "192.170.34.212"
 ],
 "virtualPort": 443
 },
 "openshift_flights_mcp_server_flights_mcp_server": {
 "class": "Pool",
 "loadBalancingMode": "round-robin",
 "members": [
 {
 "addressDiscovery": "static",
 "serverAddresses": [
 "10.128.0.201"
 ],
 "servicePort": 3001,
 "shareNodes": true
 },
 {
 "addressDiscovery": "static",
 "serverAddresses": [
 "10.130.0.251"
 ],
 "servicePort": 3001,
 "shareNodes": true
 }
 ]
 },
 "openshift_insecure_routes": {
 "class": "Endpoint_Policy",
 "rules": [
 {
 "actions": [
 {
 "event": "request",
 "select": {
 "pool": {
 "use": "openshift_flights_mcp_server_flights_mcp_server"
 }
 },
 "type": "forward"
 }
 ],
 "conditions": [
 {
 "all": {
 "operand": "equals",
 "values": [
 "flights-mcp-server.f5demo.com:80",
 "flights-mcp-server.f5demo.com"
 ]
 },
 "event": "request",
 "name": "host",
 "type": "httpHeader"
 }
 ],
 "name": "osr_flights_mcp_server_flights_mcp_server"
 }
 ],
 "strategy": "first-match"
 },
 "template": "shared",
 "vs_mcp_openshift": {
 "class": "Service_HTTP",
 "dataGroupRefInternal": {
 "class": "Data_Group",
 "keyDataType": "string",
 "name": "mcpBlockedTools",
 "records": [
 {
 "key": "test",
 "value": "test too"
 }
 ],
 "storageType": "internal"
 },
 "layer4": "tcp",
 "policyEndpoint": "/f5-cis/Shared/openshift_insecure_routes",
 "snat": "auto",
 "source": "0.0.0.0/0",
 "translateServerAddress": true,
 "translateServerPort": true,
 "virtualAddresses": [
 "192.170.34.212"
 ],
 "virtualPort": 80
 }
 },
 "class": "Tenant",
 "defaultRouteDomain": 0
 },
 "id": "urn:uuid:85626792-9ee7-46bb-8fc8-4ba708cfdc1d",
 "label": "CIS Declaration",
 "remark": "Auto-generated by CIS",
 "schemaVersion": "3.52.0",
 "updateMode": "selective"
 }
}
  1. Observe the response. You may see a 200 OK response similar to the following:
{
 "results": [
 {
 "code": 200,
 "message": "success",
 "lineCount": 23,
 "host": "192.170.32.210",
 "tenant": "f5-cis",
 "runTime": 3867,
 "declarationId": "urn:uuid:85626792-9ee7-46bb-8fc8-4ba708cfdc1d"
 }
 ],
 "declaration": {
 "f5-cis": {
 "Shared": {
 "class": "Application",
 "https_ose_vserver": {
 "class": "Service_HTTP",
 "layer4": "tcp",
 "snat": "auto",
 "source": "0.0.0.0/0",
 "translateServerAddress": true,
 "translateServerPort": true,
 "virtualAddresses": [
 "192.170.34.212"
 ],
 "virtualPort": 443
 },
 "openshift_flights_mcp_server_flights_mcp_server": {
 "class": "Pool",
 "loadBalancingMode": "round-robin",
 "members": [
 {
 "addressDiscovery": "static",
 "serverAddresses": [
 "10.128.0.201"
 ],
 "servicePort": 3001,
 "shareNodes": true
 },
 {
 "addressDiscovery": "static",
 "serverAddresses": [
 "10.130.0.251"
 ],
 "servicePort": 3001,
 "shareNodes": true
 }
 ]
 },
 "openshift_insecure_routes": {
 "class": "Endpoint_Policy",
 "rules": [
 {
 "actions": [
 {
 "event": "request",
 "select": {
 "pool": {
 "use": "openshift_flights_mcp_server_flights_mcp_server"
 }
 },
 "type": "forward"
 }
 ],
 "conditions": [
 {
 "all": {
 "operand": "equals",
 "values": [
 "flights-mcp-server.f5demo.com:80",
 "flights-mcp-server.f5demo.com"
 ]
 },
 "event": "request",
 "name": "host",
 "type": "httpHeader"
 }
 ],
 "name": "osr_flights_mcp_server_flights_mcp_server"
 }
 ],
 "strategy": "first-match"
 },
 "template": "shared",
 "vs_mcp_openshift": {
 "class": "Service_HTTP",
 "dataGroupRefInternal": {
 "class": "Data_Group",
 "keyDataType": "string",
 "name": "mcpBlockedTools",
 "records": [
 {
 "key": "test",
 "value": "test too"
 }
 ],
 "storageType": "internal"
 },
 "layer4": "tcp",
 "policyEndpoint": "/f5-cis/Shared/openshift_insecure_routes",
 "snat": "auto",
 "source": "0.0.0.0/0",
 "translateServerAddress": true,
 "translateServerPort": true,
 "virtualAddresses": [
 "192.170.34.212"
 ],
 "virtualPort": 80
 }
 },
 "class": "Tenant",
 "defaultRouteDomain": 0
 },
 "class": "ADC",
 "controls": {
 "archiveTimestamp": "2025-11-18T16:14:06.216Z",
 "class": "Controls",
 "userAgent": "CIS/v2.20.1 OCP/v4.19.7"
 },
 "id": "urn:uuid:85626792-9ee7-46bb-8fc8-4ba708cfdc1d",
 "label": "CIS Declaration",
 "remark": "Auto-generated by CIS",
 "schemaVersion": "3.52.0",
 "updateMode": "selective"
 }
}
  1. Verify the configuration on the BIG-IP system. You'll notice that the DataGroup is missing:
root@(bigip21)(cfg-sync Standalone)(Active)(/)(tmos)# cd /f5-cis
root@(bigip21)(cfg-sync Standalone)(Active)(/f5-cis)(tmos)# list ltm data-group recursive
root@(bigip21)(cfg-sync Standalone)(Active)(/f5-cis)(tmos)#

This confirms that while the AS3 system reports success, the DataGroup isn't being created.

Identifying the Root Cause

Several factors can contribute to this issue. Let's explore some potential root causes:

  1. AS3 Schema Validation: The AS3 schema might have undergone changes, and the declaration might not be fully compliant with the current schema. This can lead to certain components, like DataGroups, not being created.
  2. Permissions Issues: The user account used to submit the AS3 declaration might lack the necessary permissions to create DataGroups.
  3. Resource Limits: The BIG-IP system might have reached its resource limits, preventing the creation of new DataGroups.
  4. AS3 Service Issues: The AS3 service itself might be experiencing issues, such as being overloaded or encountering internal errors.
  5. Declaration Errors: Although the response indicates success, there might be subtle errors in the declaration that prevent the DataGroup from being created.

Troubleshooting Steps

Now that we've identified potential root causes, let's walk through a series of troubleshooting steps.

1. Verify AS3 Schema Compliance

Ensure that your AS3 declaration adheres to the latest schema. You can find the most up-to-date schema on the F5 Networks website or through the AS3 documentation. Pay close attention to the syntax and required fields for DataGroup definitions. Use an online JSON validator to verify your JSON structure against the AS3 schema. This can help identify any syntax errors or schema violations.

2. Check User Permissions

The user account submitting the AS3 declaration must have sufficient permissions to create DataGroups. Verify that the account has the necessary roles and privileges within the BIG-IP system. Insufficient permissions can silently prevent the creation of resources, resulting in a 200 OK response without the desired outcome. Consult your BIG-IP user management documentation to ensure proper role assignments.

3. Examine Resource Limits

BIG-IP systems have resource limits to prevent overuse and maintain stability. If the system has reached its limit for DataGroups or related resources, new DataGroups cannot be created. Check the system's resource utilization to identify any potential bottlenecks. Use the BIG-IP command-line interface (TMSH) to check resource usage and limits. Commands like show sys resource can provide valuable insights.

4. Review AS3 Service Logs

The AS3 service logs can provide detailed information about the processing of AS3 declarations. Check these logs for any errors or warnings that might indicate why the DataGroup creation failed. Log entries can reveal issues such as schema validation failures, permission errors, or internal service problems. Configure verbose logging for AS3 to capture more detailed information during troubleshooting.

5. Simplify the Declaration

To isolate the issue, simplify your AS3 declaration to include only the DataGroup definition. If the simplified declaration works, gradually add components back until the issue reappears. This method can help identify specific parts of the declaration that are causing problems. Create a minimal viable DataGroup in your declaration to test basic functionality before adding complexity.

6. Check for Conflicting Configurations

In some cases, existing configurations might conflict with the new DataGroup, preventing its creation. Review the existing BIG-IP configuration to identify any potential conflicts. Conflicting configurations can cause unexpected behavior and prevent new resources from being created. Use TMSH to search for existing DataGroups with similar names or configurations that might conflict.

7. Test with a Different Storage Type

In the provided example, the DataGroup uses storageType: internal. Try using a different storage type, such as external, to see if the issue persists. This can help determine if the problem is specific to the internal storage mechanism. If using external storage, ensure that the external file is properly formatted and accessible to the BIG-IP system. Review the AS3 documentation for the supported storage types and their configurations.

Expected Behavior vs. Actual Behavior

To reiterate, the expected behavior is that the DataGroup should be created on the BIG-IP system after submitting the AS3 declaration. However, the actual behavior is that the DataGroup is not created, even though the AS3 response indicates success.

This discrepancy highlights the importance of thorough verification and troubleshooting when working with AS3 and BIG-IP systems.

Solution

While a definitive solution may vary based on the root cause, here are some general steps you can take to resolve the issue:

  1. Correct any schema validation errors in your AS3 declaration.
  2. Ensure that the user account has the necessary permissions.
  3. Address any resource limit issues on the BIG-IP system.
  4. Resolve any issues with the AS3 service.
  5. Eliminate any conflicting configurations.

By systematically addressing these potential issues, you can increase the likelihood of successfully creating DataGroups using AS3.

Conclusion

Encountering a situation where an AS3 DataGroup isn't created despite a 200 OK response can be a frustrating experience. However, by following a structured troubleshooting approach and considering the potential root causes outlined in this article, you can effectively diagnose and resolve the issue. Remember to verify schema compliance, check user permissions, examine resource limits, review AS3 service logs, and simplify your declarations to pinpoint the problem.

By carefully examining these aspects, you can ensure that your AS3 declarations are correctly processed, and your DataGroups are created as expected.

For additional information and resources on F5 Networks and AS3, consider visiting the official F5 Networks website. This external resource provides valuable documentation, support, and community forums that can further assist you in troubleshooting and optimizing your F5 deployments.